tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25595390.post3743603620768510647..comments2023-12-23T15:17:54.088+00:00Comments on iamleeg: Consulting versus micro-ISV developmentGraham Leehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07305141119009757571noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25595390.post-4424894823711770012009-12-16T10:54:53.225+00:002009-12-16T10:54:53.225+00:00Adrian, I agree it sounds like there isn't muc...Adrian, I agree it sounds like there isn't much protection for employees or contractors. Don't forget that under the Bilaterals contractors can freely work for clients in the EU countries, under the banner of research. That might be a good way to avoid the treatment of Swiss employment agencies.Graham Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305141119009757571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25595390.post-21101969241519183102009-12-16T09:26:10.621+00:002009-12-16T09:26:10.621+00:00Indeed, the legal frameworks are different. Here t...Indeed, the legal frameworks are different. Here they are slightly biased to favor companies over individuals. This isn't the "country of big money" for nothing. And no, Karl Marx isn't proud :) at all.<br /><br />Again, I'm happy we're having this conversation :) I think I have to raise awareness in this country (Switzerland) that things aren't working properly. Given the comments I've had so far in my blog, I think this is a real issue here.<br /><br />Cheers!Adrian Kosmaczewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668868736474417776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25595390.post-42752757448311237312009-12-16T09:22:04.057+00:002009-12-16T09:22:04.057+00:00Adrian,
thanks for finding me and commenting :-)....Adrian,<br /><br />thanks for finding me and commenting :-). I think we probably are just the products of different ecosystems - in the UK there's a reasonable legal framework regarding dismissal, redundancy etc. and companies that can afford it will try to do better than the legal minimum, as a way of attracting and retaining staff. Bonuses (cash, stock options, both) are not uncommon even for junior developers, and while the average IT worker stays in a post for 1.5-4 years it would be possible to build a life-long career, if someone wanted to do that.<br /><br />Regarding choice of project, I've been an independent contractor/consultant now for a few months, having left a salaried post of 2 years (which was my 3rd salaried job). I have so far accepted three different (part-time) contracts of around a dozen offered. Of a few of those offered, I've had skills that the project needs to work but the company don't have in-house, whether anyone will ever acknowledge that I'm some kind of saviour doesn't matter, it seems to be true :-).<br /><br />I think another part of where we don't agree comes from the agency thing. You say that agents charge some large amount and that consultants only see 30% (Karl Marx would be proud!), so you would effectively be doing three times as much work as you get money for. That's not true for me, I work directly with my clients. The only money that gets taken off is income tax.<br /><br />Travis: but a one-person company is also a limited economy. Every potential customer must be marketed to, every converted potential must be sold to, every customer must be supported. Each requirement understood, each feature specified, each competitor reacted to, each bug filed. One person cannot sell infinite software, and the more you sell the less time you have to write software. Sorry, but uploading your software to the storefront website is not the bit where you sit back and peruse the Bentley sales brochure (oh, who wrote that storefront website? Did you take time out of writing your software to do it yourself, or did you get a consultant in?)Graham Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305141119009757571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25595390.post-70379517775149610772009-12-16T04:03:41.219+00:002009-12-16T04:03:41.219+00:00I agree w/ Adrian. A consulting company is limited...I agree w/ Adrian. A consulting company is limited by people and the hours in a day -- diseconomy of scale. People cost <i>a lot</i> more than a Web site that allows customers to input their Visa and download the bits. You can see this by analyzing the annual reports of any company that breaks out their yearly revenue by professional services and product sales (e.g., <a href="http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=141811&p=irol-sec" rel="nofollow">salesforce.com</a>). The percentage earned from sales that do not involve humans is orders of magnitude larger.Travis Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394346256857023515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25595390.post-49033607386100217992009-12-15T20:31:03.149+00:002009-12-15T20:31:03.149+00:00Hi Graham,
First of all, thanks for your post! I ...Hi Graham,<br /><br />First of all, thanks for your post! I think the article was a success just because it led to you and many others to think about the pros and cons of each option. <br /><br />In any case, I must say that I wrote the article, as all the others, using my personal experience here in Switzerland (which I mention). So what I say might not be valid in other parts of the world.<br /><br />For example, some things you mention in your post, at least in the companies I've seen in Switzerland, are downright impossible: a salaried developer has no security, no matter what the companies say (you can get fired at any time, so I don't see what security you're talking about), and gets no development plan to grow in the company (seriously, it might exist, but I have yet to see one over here). Consultants rarely get to choose the following projects (it's much harder over here than you think) and the renegotiations when requirements change are usually in favor of the client (because you are a consultant, not a lawyer, and in this country, laws are made for companies, not individuals - tip: that's why banks and insurances are so successful here, and that's why many companies set up headquarters here). And being the "saviour" of people and businesses, well, yeah, if you believe in Santa, that might be the case. You are usually the one with the broken teeth. Finally, I agree with most of your points about µISV, but I could give you a strategy to fight against each of the risks you mention. Nothing an intelligent person couldn't avoid.<br /><br />So I stand to my opinion: losing the ownership of your work it's not worth a salary. It's a question of principles and freedom :)<br /><br />Thanks again and I'd love to hear your comments!Adrian Kosmaczewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668868736474417776noreply@blogger.com